If youre familiar with the descent of that once-vaunted company into its current sorry state, appears as if they had too many of this type in management. About a year or so into owning the blue one, the clutch cable snapped (in traffic, of course). To be sure, the car was primitive, even by 1980s standards. Since Yugo America was basically just a collection of cheap office furniture and unanswered phones, creditors received essentially nothing for their interests in the company. There was a movie in 2000 entitled Drowning Mona where most of the people in a . But recycled steel, for whatever reason, is overly prone to corrosion. But even before then, Subarus had features that endeared them to snow-belt climates, like dual radiators that got the car to warm up quickly. He was scarred sh*tless and begging me to not make him drive it. Id love to hear what they thought a year later. Lucinda (Kathleen Wilhoite), the local garage mechanic, checks out the death vehicle and confirms the sheriff's suspicions: The car was rigged. In the end, its poor management. I really believe that the cars were treated as disposable, and in that way expectations were met. A Mitsubishi in all but name, Proton wisely didnt fiddle around with it much meaning you got a reliable Pseudo-Japanese car for your money, not a cobbled together lash up like the yugo was. Drowning Mona is a 2000 American 'comedy' film starring Danny DeVito, Bette Midler, Jamie Lee Curtis, Casey Affleck, Melissa McCarthy, Brian Doyle-Murray, and box-office superstar Will Ferrell. there used to be a sign on the front that said visionary vehicles but that came down at least two years ago. Yugoslavia The Land Of The Southern Slavs went to war with itself in late 1991 and essentially spent the next 17 years shooting, ethnically cleansing and generally behaving like it had before World War I. With the pullout of Fiat, Renault and the British makes just a few years before,. The first thing to appear onscreen is a little blurb about the Yugo car company using the town of Verplanck as a test area for their new model years ago. Trivia: Drowning Mona, Movie, 2000 Pictures provided by: garco, antp, ahight Display options: Also known as: Todos la queran muerta (Spain) Mais qui a tu Mona ? My favorite memory was the NYC art exhibit where every sculpture was created from the remains of an old Yugo. I know of no explanation for the garbage experience my dad had with his Audi, which broke down regularly. My cell phone was apparently assembled at gunpoint by drunk Yugoslavians in the year 1984 . It WAS a simple-to-work-on car; and in that regard I appreciated it. And, with such an unsatisfying ending and its inability to capitalize on a potentially funny situation, it's a film that you probably shouldn't rush to see on DVD. 2. Just finished Drowning Mona and came here for background. Drowning Mona is basically a comic murder-mystery. They obviously do not run. Thanks for your first hand account ! Sales quickly slowed when word of the myriad problems began to circulate in the media. Much bigger players failed on this field, like Peugeot and Renault, while on the domestic market and in the whole EU they are doing just fine. Yup, Im gonna go for a ride in my Ford Fester., I mentioned Drowning Mona below, before I read this. Actually, from my experience with Yugo monocoque, four doors would have crushing effect on rigidity:). 2) My wife (an engineer like yourself) has been to Dubrovnik and says that the beaches are incredible. Thus American drivers were introduced to the second worst car ever sold- the tiny, dangerously underpowered 360 from Subaru. The real reason why Crvena Zastava went into this adventure was that they were desperate to get some foreign currency to keep assembly lines alive. (France) Chi ha ucciso la signora Dearly? And it was reasonably fast for a car with such a small displacement engine. Hell, he only paid something like $500 for a beater commuter car and this was in the late 1990s. When a woman drives a car into the river to her death, everyone in town becomes a suspect.When a woman drives a car into the river to her death, everyone in town becomes a suspect.When a woman drives a car into the river to her death, everyone in town becomes a suspect. The displacement limit for kei cars was increased to 550cc some years ago. The Tipo 145 was developed in the early 1970s (IIRC), and it showed. I owned one. Some dinosaur relic, Id never seen before. I want to say she drove it, but I dont think she actually put many miles on it. Source for information on Drowning Mona: VideoHound's Golden Movie . Many years later I saw it, and her, driving down a street near my house. Maybe Bricklin had caught lightning in a bottle. She had a habit of parking illegally, and, faced with a ticket and impound bill that exceeded her estimate of the value of the car, donated it to the towing company. 1987 brought about several other trims, the GVL, GVS, GVC,which were very similar other than the door panels and seat upholstery. Purchased one year old cars for less than $1500 while attending college. I ask because I wanted to make a comment in the article about the C3 Audi 100/Audi 5000 about how much of a disaster my fathers ownership experience turned out to be, but I figured itd make an interesting point of comparison. The seats were quite comfy too- firm enough but still soft- and with a cotton upholstery that was miles away from the nylon stuff put in other cars of the era. My point is more that while suited for its home market, the Yugo was a cynical attempt by its promoter to make a quick buck by appealing to the most fickle, least loyal of all purchasers-the price shopper.It is only coincidental that the car was built in Yugoslavia. I was scarred for her to be driving it. Visit Dealer Website. Needless to say, it wouldve been better if Bently had just gone ahead and let them have the Mulsanne. You could disassemble the whole car with like 5 Allen keys, three sockets and two Phillips-head screwdrivers, if you were inclined. Mona, played by Midler, drowns when the brakes in her Yugo fail and she catapults through a guardrail into the lake below. This car didnt want to go into reverse at a standstill. It broke down like a Yugo. The two-door chassis is, I understand, a 127. He was absolutely correct. I think that its important to remember that Subaru (Fuji Heavy Industries) itself didnt try to push the 360 into the American market-It was Bricklin looking for a lottery win and the little 360 was his ticket. Almost everyone in town is a suspect. She claimed that once you knew and understood them, they were not bad cars for what they were. @ahight: I think there is no need to put the location square in every screenshot, only the ones with more than a single car visible. They start, get you to your destination in the dry, and thats about all you can saytheres no enjoyment in operating it and build quality was a joke. So there you have it. The Yugo was a far superior car compared against a Chevette, or first generation Hyundai. I remember, as a teenJapanese cars had fit-and-finish second to none; they started and ran smoothly with the primitive emissions controls of the time; but boy, did they rust. Its not like Fiat designs were anything special, quite the contrary in many instances. I have NEVER burned out a clutchexcept on a Yugo. Anyway, the employee joked that it even had the rear window warmer to keep your hands warm when pushing it. Actions lie louder than words. by Carolyn Wells. Only the Italians could design a car to be so much fun to drive so slowly. I saw one not long ago on the streets in Eugene, but couldnt catch it., Theres got to be a comeback there! The last Yugo that we would recognize rolled off the assembly line in November 2008. if (window['UnicI'].geo === 'EU') { The 360 fit in with the type of Japanese car that was (or would become) the Kei car class, which continues to this day within tightly-defined parameters. Pictures provided by: garco, antp, ahight, Display options: Display as images Display as list Further, it was the only small car of the era that could be genuinely fun to drive. Only other thing it needed to be roadworthy was front tires. And this works both ways after war ended in ex. The problem is, there's not a single person in town who DIDN'T have a motive. http://www.observer.com/2010/culture/wannabe-warhol?page=0, I have two things to share concerning Yugos, Bette Midler drove one in the movie Drowning Mona. The salesman was vaguely aware that they were built somewhere in Europe,but he was cagey about just where. Even those of us raised on rusting U.S. cars from the 60s were surprised by how fast the Japaneese stuff vaporized. Wyatt finds no shortage of suspects. Neve Campbell was also working on Party of Five (1994) and Scream 3 (2000) while shooting this film. Kind of reminds me of a first generation Rabbit/Golf, which Ive always considered the gold-standard for the best styled small car. They would swap in the drivetrain from the Fiat X1/9 and put on the wider wheels tires from the X1/9 also. Mona Dearly (Bette Midler) is an anagram for "only a dream". Ive got a couple of rusted out British cars one of which I repaired The rust was caused by poor window sealing on both water rusted it way out however the spares one was driven full of rust which spread it all through the unpainted box sections. In fact every single person in town hated her. if(document.getElementById("unic-ccpa")) { The other being Yugo / Zastava missing out on producing a smaller model based on the Autobianchi A112 as a replacement for the Zastava 750, initially carrying over the existing Fiat 100 Series engines prior to using the Fiat FIRE engines. Introduced at an offer price of just under $1300 , the little Subaru made much of its over 60 MPG fuel economy and low cost of ownership. I spotted the ones in the picture while out on a bike ride a few years ago. Of course, being that these cars were manual transmissioned cars, Im sure they didnt rented out nearly as much as the Ford Escorts and Hyundais that had automatics. Several actors in this film have ties to the Batman films. It was as if the Yugo was being promoted as crap, but SUPERIOR crap. And was thus more expensive. Also, the factory refused to make design changes that were obviously needed and would have been simple to implement. Both were good strong running vehicles and the only thing I remember having trouble with was remedied by tightening up the battery to starter connection on one of the cars. A revised constitution in the mid 70s turned the country into a loose confederation and as Croatia/Slovenia were more developed due to being part of Austria Hungary, there was only so much that approx thirty years of prosperity after WWII could reverse. But they were cheap! A magazine road test came up with the amusing summary: Screenwriter Peter Steinfeld says the film was originally going to be set in a mythical north. With a State-owned automobile plant, management is there for political reasons which may have nothing to do with competence. In a recent episode of Top Gear UK the trio were allegedly asked by an alleged high-ranking member of the alleged Romanian Mafia what would be the best luxury car for one of his stature. Drowning Mona is one of my favorite comedies, and its currently available on YouTube for free. A 2000 American crime comedy film directed by Nick Gomez that has a police chief ( Danny DeVito) investigate the death of a woman named Mona ( Bette Midler ), an abusive and spiteful woman who was hated by everyone who knew her. They didnt always start, and they DID always rust away. 1) Wise observation that Yugoslavia needed hard currency (without which it could not import needed consumer or industrial goods) during those years. The Kei cars, like European microcars in the 1950s and early 60s, made car ownership possible for the masses. Since it had the potential to continue the well-regarded reputation of the Autobianchi A112 base car as a small model in markets like the US compared to the SWB Fiat 127 derived car that become the infamous half-baked small Yugo. Bricklin used franchise fees to run the company (a major accounting no-no) while the car was being modified for safety and emissions certification in the U.S. and dealerships were sold, territories assigned. I remember seeing new Yugos at the (I think 1990) Chicago Auto Show. Her brake lines had been cut. If possible, the FSO 125p was even worse. Serendipity! As the pride of Serbo-Croatia hit the streets of America, reports of slipshod assembly began flooding back to the companys Upper Saddle River , New Jersey headquarters. He claimed the belt was good for 200,000-plus miles, often outlasting the pulleys. I think it's worth keeping them separate because it's a in-joke of the film that almost everyone has a Yugo. There are heaps of suspects ranging from her husband, her son, her son's friend, her son's friend's fiance and so on. The entire dashboard- I mean the WHOLE thing in RHD versions is a single piece of soft foam. I owned two. https://jalopnik.com/the-yugo-is-not-the-worst-car-ever-and-anyone-who-says-1830229976, The Yugo Is Not the Worst Car Ever and Anyone Who Says That Is a Lazy Hack So Lets Prove It, Your email address will not be published. GM had tried to buy Zastava in 2007, but the deal fell through. We heard of the Yugo here far away in South Africa, but now I know how it all came about and fell apart. Rated PG-13 Could you imagine if another country decided to do that? It had nervousness built into it, it made people nervous and it was nervous. Of course a $800 car isnt worth shyte to the insurance company, so they gave me a token $1000 for my time and trouble (another story). That brochures more collectible than its car. Drowning Mona (2000) Trivia Showing all 16 items The first thing to appear onscreen is a little blurb about the Yugo car company using the town of Verplanck as a test area for their new model years ago. I think youre a bit dismissive of Zastava. From the Subaru 360, to the SV1, to the Yugo, up to Chery, he followed the time-honored scammers credo of taking as much money as he could through charm and charisma, and when the going got tough and his shell-game started coming unraveled, he bailed with his loot and moved on to his next scam. Bette Midler chops off son's hand. But the acquisition by Fiat in 2010 renders all of that as ancient history. This is the real reason that Yugo failed in the US- a poor dealer network. When a woman drives a car into the river to her death, everyone in town becomes a suspect. Or inherrent underdog status? Me and my friend Jerry (from Sam Bonds) drove a Yugo at a wrecker yard in Coburg some years back. Theyre really a mishmash of the two; with their own unique body. Since my father was born in Vukovar and some of our family still lives in Croatia it was of great interest to me. I think I remember this! It was mainly low used values (the proton badge had no snob appeal) and apathy that saw them scrapped rather than any major fault of the car. Whats good- quad headlights This car had one genuine asset: ride quality. This is the same scenario as Chrysler- My parents always said that if you get a Dodge in town itll be a lemon, but in the country, itll be a good car because the smaller country dealer relies on repeat business and does a better PDI, ensuring bolts arent missing, and both sides identify the car correctly. I have often wondered why Bricklin didnt try to make a ploy for the tooling to be set up in a higher quality shop. It helps to understand that everyone in Verplanck is dim to one degree or another, except for the Rash family. At Zastava, these were foreign. After highway driving the gear would refuse to shift, like it overheated being in gear so long, it refused to move. Whats terrifying is that a convertible version of this thing the flimsiest vehicle imaginable was sold in the U.S. No flimsier than the Toyota Paseo or Geo Metro convertible. I had always known these to be license-built versions of the 128. With Danny DeVito, Bette Midler, Neve Campbell, Jamie Lee Curtis, Casey Affleck, Peter Dobson, Will Ferrell, William Fichtner, Raymond O'Connor, Marcus Thomas and . . The space efficiency was great too- it really is tiny- and is NOT a fiat. Also spare parts were inexpensive and any mechanic and his nephew would fix it. (first posted 10/10/2011) Every once in a while, a visionary, iconoclastic automotive pioneer bursts on the scene and, bucking the long odds and naysaying conventional wisdom, delivers a disruptive new line of cars. Of course, not wanting to be associated with alleged members of the alleged Romanian Mafia, Bently pulled out. As noted, Bricklin first noticed the subcompact Yugo on the streets of London and within a couple of months, he had set up his first meet and greet with the management at Zastava . Knobs came off in your hand, the sliding radio marker on a string would get stuck and not move off of from where it landed. She was rather negligent about maintenance, so would have been tough on any vehicle, but her Yugo, like many of its kind, fell apart rather quickly, stressing a budget that was already tight. I remember listening to Car Talk some 5-6 years ago and a caller came on and said that his Yugo (an 87 I think) died at 150,000 miles, not due to mechanical failure, but due to a Deer. This is all fictional of course. Had Bricklin given the tooling to the Koreans, and had it built to their standards under contracthed have had what he wanted. I really dont think that anyone has a competitive advantage in rust resistance any more. The effort collapsed along with Yugo sales in America. ), it was quite good. Bricklin had formed Yugo of America to import the car and as was his custom, financial shenanigans were part of the mix. The early Japanese cars were not that different from the 360: Junk. Old joke. Well life handed me a whole pile a' shit! You know, we have a joke here in ex-Yugoslavia about Yugo: A "Fetzer valve" is a fictional part of an engine, introduced in the movie Fletch (1985). Had a Datsun King Cab twenty-odd years agoand I went parts-shopping in boneyards. alignments. Id actually like to have another one, but beef it up with Fiat parts. But back to the subject, shortage of all kind of raw material was the main reason for poor quality, not drunken workers. after about 30 years of having the car rust off of the frame. Those brave revolutionaries almost single handedly redefine their market segment and leave an indelible mark on the industry itself. While poor Yugo certainly was not the best car made, but it was hardly the worst either. She does figure in a quiet little in-joke. Two YUGO watches, new. So, they set about seeing what was what with a road-trip around Romania in three cars they would be testing. An automatic wouldnt fit in the Yugo engine bay, so the only thing shiftless about the Yugo would be the Zastava workers that routinely drank on the job. The Yugo was based on a mash up of models 127 and 128 built under license by a wildly unproductive workforce in an obsolete factory with assembly quality that made real mid 70's Fiats look hand built. The Yugo, new clutch, new exhaust, patched wiring and all, went into the trash. An older Yugo, since the car hasn't been manufactured since its country went out of business. Modern kei cars are dimensionally similar to the old sidevalve english Fords tall and narrow hopefully they dont fall over as easily I see lots of elderly people driving used import keis here. In 1975, he won the Pulitzer Prize for distinguished criticism. Zastava only collapsed in 2008, and its decline was NOT due to mismanagement, but the trade embargo on Serbia, which starved them of devlopment funds. Its a tough call on the Yugo. Its so interesting to think of how things couldve been different if the country survived Communisms collapse in one peace. At only 20,000 miles it was worn out, fading, under powered, rusting, it wanted to die and be buried, it certainly didnt want to be a car! I recall taking my younger brother out to teach him how to drive. The U.S. stuff was bad enough in that era, but the European cars were (by and large) even worse and the Japaneese were worse by orders of magnatude. Now that its privatized, products have risen in quality to what the buyer expects for his money. These cars came with an optional AM/FM cassette deck that was very basic, only 5W total if I recall right, or was that 5W per channel? It would be interesting to see how the rear suspension was beefed up. Ladas were, and are, shite. Initially, I had my eyes set on a mid 80s Toyota Celica as the cheapest car I could find. TRUCKEE, Calif. It eventually developed a bad piston ring(s), and the blow by was enough to clog the carburetor so that it would stop running. Roger Ebert was the film critic of the Chicago Sun-Times from 1967 until his death in 2013. He regaled us with stories of his work at Yugo and claimed that the factory started to develop (or adapt) an automatic transmission for the market in the USA. Early oil changes, followed maintenance schedule. 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